006: with Svetlana Shapovaliants

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We talk with Svetlana Shapovaliants about her Clean journey, Clean Language in Russia, and the origins of #DramaFree. This episode was recorded after we attended a Systemic Modelling 3-day rolling programme in West Kirby, delivered by Caitlin Walker and Svetlana. You can find Svetlana’s company Ancora Impario at https://ancoraimparo.ru/