121: Mind Over Law

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Lexlee Overton became a trial lawyer just like her dad, but then found herself anxiety-ridden and suffering from what she terms “trial psychosis.” She learned to overcome her stress and turned to helping other lawyers. Now she helps lawyers learn how to use scientifically proven techniques to train their minds to release stress, anxiety, and fear; become power-performers; and love what they do all at the same time. In this episode, Lexlee tells us how (as a young lawyer) she met the world-famous Gerry Spence. And she shares the unusual advice the veteran trial lawyer gave her for achieving success in the courtroom (As you’ll learn, Lexlee ultimately went on to work as a guide in Spence’s popular trial academy in Wyoming). She and Ernie also discuss the power of psychology in negotiation and for inner-focus. Below are some resources mentioned in this episode: Lexlee’s website:Mind Over Law How to Argue and Win Every Time, Gerry Spence Spence’s Trial Lawyers’ College Never Split the Difference: Negotiating As If Your Life Depended On It, by Chris Voss Thinking in Bets: Making Smarter Decisions When You Don't Have All the Facts by Annie Duke And here’s link to my Solo & Small Firm Lawyers’ Guide to Working Smarter (learn to make your practice more automated & virtual —and less dependent on you doing all the work and making most of the decisions). Thanks to Our Sponsors Smith.ai is an amazing virtual receptionist service that specializes in working with solo and small law firms. When you hire Smith.ai you’re actually hiring well-trained, friendly receptionists who can respond to callers in English or Spanish. Then can screen callers (obviously) but they do much more. Like create appointments and accept payments if you charge for initial consults (which you should!). And they do this 7 days a week. The best part is they don’t just handle these conversations by phone — they also have 24/7 live agents and chatbots capturing leads on websites and via text message (even via Facebook Messenger). If there’s one great outsourcing opportunity for your practice, this is it. Let Smith.ai have your back while you stay focused on your work, knowing that your clients and prospects are being taken care of. Plans start at just $140 a month for calls or chats. And they have a special offer for podcast listeners where you can get an extra $100 discount with promo code ERNIE100. Sign up for a free trial now (and learn more) at www.smith.ai. As they say, “don’t let another day go by without trying Smith.ai.” EPISODE CREDITS: If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Danny Ozment. He helps thought leaders, influencers, executives, HR professionals, recruiters, lawyers, realtors, bloggers, coaches, and authors create, launch, and produce podcasts that grow their business and impact the world. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com