Change is in the air

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We went a little off-script during this episode. Marven Hyppolite, a community organizer, joins us to share his opinions on the protest that's happening all around the world. Phil and I discuss how we are sorting through conversations around race in our family and how we plan to enact change. Listen to this episode for the about black stories and to learn how our interracial marriage is fairing during these troubling times.