EP280: COVID-19—Will Currently-in-Use Technology Advancements Wind Up Disrupting Traditional Models of Health Care Delivery and Reimbursement? With Yauheni Solad, MD, and Rahul Dubey

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In this health care podcast, I am talking with Yauheni Solad, MD. Dr. Solad is one of the top minds in data and data exchange. He’s medical director of digital health and telemedicine at Yale New Haven Health, and he has a mission to lead digital transformation toward accessible and affordable high-quality care that’s enabled by technology. Dr. Solad also does a lot of work with NODE—the Network of Digital Evidence. In the conversation we’re about to have, Dr. Solad represents the provider point of view. The show also features the one and only Rahul Dubey, hero to peaceable protesters. You can search for Rahul Dubey protesters to see what I mean. And also, he is the founder of Percynal Health Innovations. Rahul is the former chief innovation officer over at AHIP—that is, America’s Health Insurance Plans. In this conversation, Rahul represents the payer point of view. Here’s what we’re talking about, and I’m gonna keep this brief: It has been postulated that technology will be a catalyst for health care transformation. By technology, I mean the leaps many systems of care have made in their technological capabilities to deal with the realities of C-19. Dr. Solad, Rahul Dubey, and I talk about whether and how greater digital capability—which often means greater ability to care for populations vis-à-vis remote monitoring and telehealth—but whether, you know, the tail can wag the dog, so to speak, because so much investment has been made in these technology capes that we’re gonna want to use them. And when we use them, we transform care delivery. You can learn more by connecting with Dr. Solad on Twitter at @ysolad or on LinkedIn. You can also connect with Rahul via email or LinkedIn. Yauheni Solad, MD, MHS, is the medical director of digital health and telemedicine at Yale New Haven Health System. He is a practicing physician, clinical informaticist, and entrepreneur with a strong hands-on experience in software and data standards development with a particular focus on enabling the next wave of value-based care innovation. Yauheni received his medical degree summa cum laude from Belarusian State Medical University and a Master of Health Science from Yale School of Public Health. He is currently completing his executive MBA at Yale School of Management. Rahul Dubey is CEO of Percynal Health Innovations and the founder of America’s Health Insurance Plans (AHIP) Innovation Lab. Rahul is currently responsible for collaborating with C-level executives at his health plan. Prior to joining AHIP and launching Percynal Health Innovations, Rahul held a leadership role as a founding employee of a successful digital health care start-up based in Washington, DC. Along with the company’s cofounders, Rahul was instrumental in developing a multifaceted consumer tool as well as leading the company’s “go-to-market strategy,” resulting in successful market penetration and revenue growth for the industry’s first consumer-led shared decision making and treatment selection platform. Rahul was recognized with the Smart Health’s 2018 Excellence in Healthcare Transformation award, was named the American Journal of Health Promotion’s 2017 Innovators and Game Changers, and is featured in Accenture Perspectives: Minds Driving the Future of Business. In 2017, Frost & Sullivan presented Rahul with one of their highest honors, their Global Visionary Innovation Leadership Award. He is a graduate of the University of Michigan–Ross School of Business and lives in Washington, DC, with his son. He invites you to contact him directly—that is, if you’re willing to roll up your sleeves and drive transformation through inflective collaborative. 03:56 How COVID-19 affects interoperability. 07:06 “It’s not only the data exchange; it’s your ability as a health care system to innovate.”—Dr. Solad 09:11 How close are we to adopting more innovative and better technologies? 11:32 “Make docs happy. That is a very foreign concept for … people that are not delivering care to think about.”—Rahul 11:47 “We want to be able to enable the primary care physician to deliver care.”—Rahul 12:03 Working doctors rather than “dictating upon them.” 13:16 “I can’t sell burnout … I can sell value of care and outcomes of less cost.”—Rahul 18:44 “There might be an increase in overconsumption of care.”—Rahul 19:14 The possible increase in utilization of care and the potential for lower cost sharing. 19:57 Unlimited primary care and the benefits this might offer. 22:59 Does this pose risks to health systems? 25:22 “Everything you do for the patient should have a clear value to them.”—Dr. Solad 26:35 “What type of technology can provide this missing link for your particular health care system?”—Dr. Solad 28:18 Reimbursement as the new HIPAA. 29:15 “We need more evidence in data around the delivery of this technology-enabled service.”—Dr. Solad 32:20 What payers and providers should be doing today. 35:16 Care management vs consumerism. You can learn more by connecting with Dr. Solad on Twitter at @ysolad or on LinkedIn. You can also connect with Rahul via email or LinkedIn. 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