Arts
Taylor Swift started off as a country singer, but those days seem very, very far away. She now reigns over the music industry as one of the biggest pop stars on the planet, selling out stadiums, dominating the charts, and turning her very public heartbreaks into very popular songs. She has also, every now and then, found herself at the center of a massive public controversy. And in this especially raucous episode, the guys engage in a lively debate over that one big question: is she an artist or a mogul? NOTE: This conversation was recorded before Taylor endorsed several Democratic candidates for the 2018 midterm elections, at a time when her political affiliations were still largely unknown.