Episode 4: Cliff Hakim

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Second Start with Joel Olicker

Society & Culture


"Cliff Hakim started out as a public school teacher. He loved the work, but not the low pay. So he embarked on a series of work transitions, first into the corporate world, then starting his own firm, eventually becoming a sought-after author and career coach. There was a logical flow to all these changes, but recently Cliff took a different kind of turn, perhaps the biggest leap of his life. He and Joel talk about trusting your gut, sensing when things start to get stale, and mustering the courage to change."