Leisure
Host Wendy Clark interviews Tom Ferguson, co-host of the podcast "Ninja and the Birdman," which focuses predominantly on the themes of birding, martial arts, nature, and meditation. Tom Ferguson is the founder and CEO of Rise Southern Biscuits & Righteous Chicken, a restaurant chain that has experienced great success in a short time. Tom reveals a time when he was in a dark place in life, and found healing through the doorway of birding.