Grace Beverley on working hard (or hardly working)


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Is This Working?


Are we working hard enough? Or are we hardly working? In this episode, Anna interviews Grace Beverley, CEO of two wildly successful Gen-Z companies, about the paradox of modern work.Grace Beverley's book, Working Hard, Hardly Working: How to achieve more, stress less and feel fulfilled, is out now:**AD: Thank you to our sponsor, Wild. Go to Wild today and get yourself this natural, refillable deodorant that genuinely works. You can order by going to and you’ll get 20% off your first order when you use code “ISTHISWORKING” at checkout.**? Get in touch with the show! We're @isthis_working on Twitter and you can email us on See for privacy and opt-out information.