Interdependency with Caleb Schmiege - 228

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00:00 - Intro and Theme Song00:28 - Tim & Drew admit their failure00:58 - Conversation with Caleb Schmiege32:12 - Wrap-upPodcast PatreonSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/heartsandhandspodcast)