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Highlights from the conversationAny public institution has a brand and is a brandThe Constitution has a lavish and generous set of values...but it comes down to the promise of human dignityIt doesn't matter if you've got this amazing message and amazing marketing collateral – if you don't actually do the thing that you said you would do, it all failsOne shouldn't over mythologize the element of public participationIt doesn't matter about its provenance, the fact is that it was an evocative and moving charter on the part of those struggling against ApartheidThe question is what was produced? Whether it's a flag, a set of values, did it have resonant integrity? More about Judge CameronEdwin Cameron retired in August 2019, after 25 years’ service as a judge, the last eleven in South Africa's highest court, the Constitutional Court. Before that, he served in the Supreme Court of Appeal for eight years, and the High Court for six. He was educated at Pretoria Boys' High, Stellenbosch and as a Rhodes Scholar at Oxford. During apartheid he was a human rights lawyer. He has fought for LGBTI equality, and helped attain the historic inclusion of sexual orientation in South Africa's Constitution. As someone living with HIV, he was a fierce critic of President Mbeki's AIDS denialist policies. His two prize-winning memoirs, Witness to AIDS (2005) and Justice: A Personal Account (2014), have been translated into German, Korean and Chinese. He holds honorary degrees from six universities. After stepping down as a judge, he was elected Chancellor of Stellenbosch University and appointed Judicial Inspector of Correctional Services. Show NotesPeople:Arthur ChaskalsonPius LangaCompanies and organisations:The Constitutional Court of South AfricaThe Supreme Court of AppealThe High CourtMiscellaneous:The South African ConstitutionThe South African FlagMemoir: Witness to AIDS (2005)Memoir: Justice: A Personal Account (2014) How can you help?There are four ways you can help us out.Give us your thoughts. Rate the podcast and leave a comment.Share this as far and wide as you can - tell your friends, family and colleagues about us (caveat: if you own a family business, these may all be the same people)Tell us how we can create a better podcast - tell us what you liked, didn’t like, or what you’d like to hear more (or less) ofTell us who you’d like to hear on the podcast. Suggest someone that you think we should interview.One More Question is a podcast by Nicework, a purpose-driven company helping people who want to make a dent in the world by building brands people give a shit about.One of the things we do best is ask our clients the right questions. This podcast came about because we want to share some of the best answers we have heard over the last 13 years. We talk to significant creators, experts and communicators we encounter and share useful insights, inspiration, and facts that make us stop and take note as we go about our work.Hosted by our founder Ross Drakes.Subscribe iTunes, Spotify, Stitcher, Google PodcastsMusic by: @dcuttermusic / http://www.davidcuttermusic.com