S2E07: DerbyCon Edition w/ Carlos Perez & Benjamin Delpy

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In this episode, Christopher Glyer and Nick Carr interview theDarkoperator (@Carlos_Perez) and Benjamin Delpy (@gentilkiwi) on allthings related to Mimikatz and Kekeo. They discuss Carlos' new classon Mimikatz, the background on why he started it, how red teamers canuse the features in unique/creative ways, and how blue teamers candetect the activity. Benjamin shared the background on how hedeveloped the tools (hint - he didn't read the kerberos RFC), some ofits lesser known capabilities, like cloning near field communication(NFC) proximity badges, how kerberos golden tickets got their default10 year lifetime, why you only really need to set the expiration to 20minutes, and his "creative" documentation (e.g. animated GIF posted toTwitter).