We speak with the wonderful Kathleen Callahan of Daughter of Wands about her experience running a spiritual business. Kathleen brings a depth of knowledge, candid thoughts about her journey, and so much passion to this discussion. In this conversation we explore: turning your side hustle into your full-time job, running a values-based business, honoring your personal boundaries, noticing and acting on the changes that are happening in your business, and so much more. This conversation stretches beyond practitioners and is such a delight. Although she thinks of herself as an eternal student, Kathleen has been working with the tarot for the past 19 years. Her father was a tarot reader in the 1970s but kept it secret from her until she bought her first set of cards at the initiatory age of 13. He refused to teach her the language of the cards, so she spent many years finding her own way with them. With limited means most of her life she has taught herself plant medicine and astrology over the course of the last 7 years, and now weaves her love for tarot, astrology, and plant medicine together in her work to support transformation in herself and clients. She is also trained in IET (Integrated Energy Therapy) and Reiki to nourish the space she holds for others. By learning to find the voice within after all these years, she now teaches others how to find their own inner wisdom and that we can be our own healer.