The Istari – Part 2

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Fifth Age Podcast: Tolkien Stories

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In this second part of our Istari episode, we get WAY off topic… or are we just doing some holistic detective work to get where we needed to be? We discuss a little bit about the less known wizards, Radagast, Alatar, and Pallando. Dan defends a choice made by Peter Jackson in the Hobbit movies (what!?), he talks about how the Istari figure into the game Shadow of Mordor, and we both get distracted, Radagast style, by Dirk Gently.     1:10 what were each of them doing? 1:34 What were they sent for? 1:50 Erica’s not particular about language 2:10 Sent to combat Sauron 2:40 Radagast saw bunnies and trees and gave up. 3:00 Hobbit movies, Peter McRadagast is he an abomination or an eccentric failure? 3:23 Was sent to fight great evil, but lost interest because bunnies are so darn cute! 4:00 Look at the BONES! 4:48 Peter McRadagast - Dan’s reaction 5:18 There’s no question… THAT guy is definitely Radagast! 5:40 The rabbit sled *eyeroll* 6:30 In defense of Peter McRadagast 7:30 Broad appeal/comedic effect 8:35 One of the least powerful of the Istari, or more powerful because of influence with animals? 9:15 Ged from Ursula LeGuin’s Earthsea novels is a good example of wizards utilizing nature powers. 9:40 Radagast failed at protecting nature too. 9:56 Yavanna’s controls didn’t work so well in Isengard. Radagast turned a blind eye while Saruman ripped things up and the ents ignored him for a good, long time. But when they noticed, it was pretty effective. 10:40 The blue istari were Oromë’s not a lot of info about them. 11:15 Possibly responsible for magic cults after Sauron’s fall. 11:44 Shadow of Mordor has blue istari artifacts (Dan keeps saying Shadow of War, but it’s not). 12:18 The star chart and the two istari statue 12:55 The Sea of Núrnen is in the southern part of Mordor. 13:40 - DAN GET LINKS TO THE ARTIFACTS SO PEOPLE CAN SEE THEM! OK! I did it! The Weathered Azurite Figureine, The Two Istari ~and~ Star Chart 14:15 Dan reads the script for the audio from the star chart in Shadow of Mordor. 15:38 Why did Erica find this so interesting? 16:00 Istari/Vala associations, who was Pallando hanging out with in Valinor? 16:10 Nienna and Mandos. Destiny in Sandman! 17:20 The blue istari give up. 17:44 How would they have even made these things? 18:30 The blue carving of the istari. 18:56 There are 2 blue istari that went south, 2 guys with staffs, carved from blue stone. 19:38 Alatar is always associated with Oromë 21:00 The power of Sauron’s dominating will causes despair. 21:41 Game designers decided that the blue istari were doing what they were supposed to, but were destroyed by Sauron. 22:14 Tolkien implies that the blue istari started magic cults, were possibly turned by Sauron. 22:55 The 2 istari figurine 23:25 What was it for? Lizzadro Lapidary Arts Museum 24:24 Description of figurine from game. 25:21 Text from game describing how the blue istari are hunting the darkness. Insisted on being together. 26:17 So you want to read Tolkien - was it 2 maia that came to Middle Earth in the form of 2 people. 27:27 Good job Shadow of Mordor designers! 27:55 The blue istari as Dirk Gently. Sauron was defeated. How do you know they weren’t the reason? If they are holistic detectives, they could have been the ones that did it! 28:37 Erica’s shrugging but you can’t see it. 29:53 Erica’s librarianing! 30:33 Which vala is in Dirk Gently’s refrigerator? It’s judgy, keeper of halls of the dead, mysterious, forgets nothing, and knows all. MANDOS! 31:07 Did the contents of the fridge make the blue istari give up their quest?   References: Links to the Shadow of Mordor wiki: The Weathered Azurite Figureine, The Two Istari ~and~ Star Chart   All music is by the amazing Doctor Turtle! Feel free to show him some love. So You Want to Read Tolkien can be found here.