A special episode of #ThisOldMarketing. In this episode, Joe and Robert discuss some big opportunities for marketers, especially in the acquisition space. ------ Subscribe to PNR: This Old Marketing at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify, YouTube, or wherever you listen to fine podcasts. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Random Newsletter at JoePulizzi.com. Follow Joe @JoePulizzi. Joe's new #thriller is now available at TheWilltoDie.com. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at The Content Advisory. Follow Robert @Robert_Rose.

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232: What Marketers Need to Do During Lockdown [SPECIAL EPISODE]

Joe and Robert discuss a corona virus (COVID-19) week of news in marketing, trying to make sense of what's next. Corona virus coverage gives major publishers a huge lift in traffic, bringing in pay-wall and advertising questions. In other news, a strange report claimed that now is the time for Apple to buy Disney. Of course, Robert is against, while Joe is the biggest cheerleader for the deal. Facebook had all sorts of issues with its AI-powered SPAM engine, while Ford completely changes it's advertising campaigns in response to COVID-19. Finally, the boys discuss why now may be the greatest moment ever for content marketing. In rants and raves, Joe comments about how now is a truly defining moment for marketing, while Robert discusses the future and opportunity in virtual events. Today's sponsor: Content Marketing University. Use code FRIEND200 to save $200. Offer ends 4/30. ------ Subscribe to PNR: This Old Marketing at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify, YouTube, or wherever you listen to fine podcasts. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Random Newsletter at JoePulizzi.com. Follow Joe @JoePulizzi. Joe's new #thriller is now available at TheWilltoDie.com. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at The Content Advisory. Follow Robert @Robert_Rose.

231: Making Sense of a Crazy Week...plus Could Apple Buy Disney?

A special episode of #ThisOldMarketing. In this episode, Joe and Robert discuss the new reality in front of marketers and what we, as marketers, need to be focusing on today. ------ Subscribe to PNR: This Old Marketing at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify, YouTube, or wherever you listen to fine podcasts. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Random Newsletter at JoePulizzi.com. Follow Joe @JoePulizzi. Joe's new #thriller is now available at TheWilltoDie.com. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at The Content Advisory. Follow Robert @Robert_Rose.

230: Marketing at a Social Distance [SPECIAL EPISODE]

For episode #229 of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert lead off with a worthy rant on AdAge's addition of a "content marketing" awards category, which really isn't content marketing at all. Both Mailchimp and Salesforce purchase media properties, further proving that the boys' prediction from the past is coming true - corporate brands are and will continue to buy traditional media assets. In other news, former 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick launches his one publishing venture. The jury is out on whether this is actually a real thing or not. In rants and raves, Robert rants about the flawed research on the coronavirus that is affecting Corona beer, while Joe raves about Jonah Berger's "The Catalyst" and rants about Audible production. ------ Subscribe to PNR: This Old Marketing at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify, YouTube, or wherever you listen to fine podcasts. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Random Newsletter at JoePulizzi.com. Follow Joe @JoePulizzi. Joe's new #thriller is now available at TheWilltoDie.com. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at The Content Advisory. Follow Robert @Robert_Rose. ------ This episode is sponsored by ContentTECH Summit.

229: Salesforce, Mailchimp Buy Media Properties

In episode #228 of This Old Marketing, Joe and Robert kick off the show with commentary on Burger King's new "moldy burger" campaign. Facebook hires Reuters to do fact checking, and the boys argue about the real strategy behind the move. More and more "advertisers" are buying media companies and one article gives a detailed history of the missed opportunity (by both marketers and media companies). Catalogs are back again, while the Peloton "wife" commercial didn't hurt business like so many prognosticators thought. In rants and raves, Robert details why IKEA keeps winning and shares an important New York Times article on the importance of Journalism. Joe shares new research on the "State of Writing" and its impact on all marketers and communicators. ------ Subscribe to PNR: This Old Marketing at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify, Soundcloud, YouTube, or wherever you listen to fine podcasts. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Random Newsletter at JoePulizzi.com. Follow Joe @JoePulizzi. Joe's new #thriller is now available at TheWilltoDie.com. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at The Content Advisory. Follow Robert @Robert_Rose. ------ This episode is sponsored by ContentTECH Summit.

228: The Real Story Behind Facebook's Fact-Checking Plan

On episode #227 of PNR's This Old Marketing, Joe and Robert dissect the best and worst super bowl ads of 2020. In other news, the creation of less content is actually a winning strategy of successful online publishers, while Warren Buffett leaves the newspaper media industry...or does he? There were a slew of M&A deals over the past few weeks, including Barstool Sports and Spotify gobbling up "The Ringer." In rants and raves, Joe raves about Ray Dalio's Principles, and shares one of the oldest content marketing examples ever. Robert raves about John Kotter's A Sense of Urgency and discusses the future of content activism. ------ Subscribe to PNR: This Old Marketing at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify, Soundcloud, YouTube, or wherever you listen to fine podcasts. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Random Newsletter at JoePulizzi.com. Follow Joe @JoePulizzi. Joe's new #thriller is now available at TheWilltoDie.com. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at The Content Advisory. Follow Robert @Robert_Rose. ------ This episode is sponsored by ContentTECH Summit.

227: Ranking the Best & Worst Super Bowl Ads of 2020

In episode 226 of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert dissect an intriguing report by the World Economic Forum on the future of jobs. In it, the WEF predict that sales, marketing and content jobs will be among the most plentiful. In other news, the death of the cookie (as declared by Google) is big news for advertisers, publishers and content marketers. Who will win? (Joe and Robert tell you) Finally, the boys break down the success of new media companies turning profitable, and what marketers can learn. In rants and raves, Joe raves about the Unauthorized Biography Series and Loserthink by Scott Adams. Robert then talks in detail about the life and death of Clayton Christensen. ------ Subscribe to PNR: This Old Marketing at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify, Soundcloud, YouTube, or wherever you listen to fine podcasts. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Random Newsletter at JoePulizzi.com. Follow Joe @JoePulizzi. Joe's new #thriller is now available at TheWilltoDie.com. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at The Content Advisory. Follow Robert @Robert_Rose. ------ This episode is sponsored by ContentTECH Summit.

226: Content Jobs Among Biggest Growth Area Per World Economic Forum

In episode #225 (the Happy New Year episode) of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert look at the advertising industry, and whether a "move" away from smartphone usage will hurt digital ads (uh, not really). Facebook says it will ban artificial intelligence "deepfakes," but will it make a difference since Facebook isn't changing its policy on cheapfakes or shallowfakes? The annual Consumer Electronics Show (CES) happened last week. Joe and Robert discuss some of the main questions from the CES show. And finally, Coca-Cola reverted back to having the CMO role. Robert is happy, but Joe thinks it's all show and no bite. In rants and raves, Joe covers an ANA article about B2B Content Marketing while Robert raves about Buzzfeed's new business model. ------ Subscribe to PNR: This Old Marketing at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify, Soundcloud, YouTube, or wherever you listen to fine podcasts. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Random Newsletter at JoePulizzi.com. Follow Joe @JoePulizzi. Joe's new #thriller is now available at TheWilltoDie.com. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at The Content Advisory. Follow Robert @Robert_Rose. ------ This episode is sponsored by ContentTECH Summit.

225: Coca-Cola Reverts Back to CMO Role. Does It Matter?

Yes! It's the annual #ThisOldMarketing predictions episode. This year, Robert and Joe bring you eight amazing and infallible marketing predictions that are sure to be wrong (but fun nonetheless). This year's marketing predictions include: Less Content and Simplicity to Drive Marketing Strategy in 2020 (Joe). Brand Journalism (or Content Marketing) is pushed forward by Social Corporate Responsibility (SCR) efforts (Robert). The drop in print has stopped. 2020 will see the resurgence of print media led by enterprise brands (Joe). Support article on print books here. Ad Tech takes a crippling hit in 2020 (Robert). Microsoft will launch their own "Disney+" for business-to-business markets (Joe). AppleTV Plus will die (Joe, but Robert disagrees). Deepfakes take over the 2020 election process (Joe). Big agencies start to break up after large consolidation run (Robert). Robert's Rave - Brand-backed media gets another look. Joe's Rave - Essentialism by Greg McKeown ------ Subscribe to PNR: This Old Marketing at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify, Soundcloud, YouTube, or wherever you listen to fine podcasts. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Random Newsletter at JoePulizzi.com. Follow Joe @JoePulizzi. Joe's new #thriller is now available at TheWilltoDie.com. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at The Content Advisory. Follow Robert @Robert_Rose. ------ This episode is sponsored by ContentTECH Summit.

224: 8 Big Content Marketing Predictions for 2020

In this episode #223 of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert go inside Peloton...discussing the ad, the aftermath and what might happen to the brand in the future. Robert believes many mistakes were made, but the public's reaction was a pure over-reaction. Joe thinks that we can't judge the outcome until the next quarter's results are in. In other news, the boys dissect the #SubscribeSunday program from Boston Globe, and how brands can use both an "event" and a collaborative effort to launch and grow content marketing initiatives. Finally, Joe and Robert discuss the huge opportunities and challenges for brands who want to acquire distressed media assets. In rants and raves, Joe raves about Straight No Chaser while Robert rants on California's upcoming privacy law (CCPA), with a helpful infographic from Ruth Carter on how to comply with CCPA. ------ Subscribe to PNR: This Old Marketing at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify, Soundcloud, YouTube, or wherever you listen to fine podcasts. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Random Newsletter at JoePulizzi.com. Follow Joe @JoePulizzi. Joe's new #thriller is now available at TheWilltoDie.com. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at The Content Advisory. Follow Robert @Robert_Rose. ------ This episode is sponsored by ContentTECH Summit.

223: Can Marketers Learn Anything from the Peloton Fiasco?

In this very special #222 bonus episode of This Old Marketing, Joe and Robert take requests from Twitter. What could go wrong? Alberto Gomez (@albermoire) asked Joe and Robert about their biggest failures. Since the boys only had an hour, they decided to cover just a few of the many, many failures in their young lives. Doug Kessler (@DougKessler) asked about "what's next?" Joe covered voice and print. Robert covered drastic changes in governance. Both discussed the evolution of social media, with particular focus on Sacha Baron Cohen's recent ADL speech. In rants and raves, Joe ranted about YouTube's FTC compliance system, while Robert discussed gratitude. ------ Subscribe to PNR: This Old Marketing at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify, Soundcloud, YouTube, or wherever you listen to fine podcasts. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Random Newsletter at JoePulizzi.com. Follow Joe @JoePulizzi. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at The Content Advisory. Follow Robert @Robert_Rose. ------ This episode is sponsored by ContentTECH Summit.  

222: Our Biggest Failures BONUS Episode + Even More Failures

In episode 221 of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert unpack Disney's launch of Disney+, including first-day tech issues, adding 10 million users, and a huge stock market push to record levels. Further into the show, Robert unpacks the current marketing bubble: online advertising (H/T @karlyeh721), and how everything can be proven to work if you only use part of the data. Joe continues on into social media news: Facebook is found to be "secretly" using the iPhone camera while their app is open and Instagram announces they won't be showing the like count on posts any longer. In rants and raves, Joe raves about His Dark Materials amazing usage of outdoor media and provides comment on how Generation Z might save print. Robert rants about Sharethrough's EU office closing and provides commentary on Nielsen's company split. ------ Subscribe to PNR: This Old Marketing at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify, Soundcloud, YouTube, or wherever you listen to fine podcasts. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Random Newsletter at JoePulizzi.com. Follow Joe @JoePulizzi. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at The Content Advisory. Follow Robert @Robert_Rose. ------ This episode is sponsored by ContentTECH Summit.

221: Marketing Always Works (If You Leave Out Certain Data)

In episode 220 of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert discuss the bold move by Twitter, who announced they will remove political ads from their platform in a few weeks. Robert believes this was a good call, and that Twitter may not resume service in that area. Joe believes that Twitter completely dropped the ball, and they will resume service (and charge a premium) in a few months. Both believe the move was done primarily for public relations purposes. In other news, Google buys wearables-maker Fitbit, and also looks at acquiring TikTok rival Firework. Joe and Robert also review Orbit Media's latest research on blogging, and what really works in textual media today. In rants and raves, Joe applauds Elon University's approach to the Common App, while Robert rants about the talk around the demise of the CMO, and raves about how GDPR-compliant companies are winning (h/t @thanybethanybe). ------ Subscribe to PNR: This Old Marketing at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify, Soundcloud, YouTube, or wherever you listen to fine podcasts. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Random Newsletter at JoePulizzi.com. Follow Joe @JoePulizzi. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at The Content Advisory. Follow Robert @Robert_Rose. ------ This episode is sponsored by CMI's Agency Masterclass in NYC. 

220: Twitter's Move Away from Political Ads a PR Stunt

In episode 219 of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert start by discussing the controversy surrounding the NBA and China. Was the NBA correct in how they dealt with an employee tweet (we say no)? How should a large global brand deal with employee social media? Other news was dominated by government regulations. First, the boys unpack California Assembly Bill 5 (AB5) and what it means for hiring freelance content creators. Second, Joe and Robert discuss California's Privacy Act, which seems to be the start of how dozens of states are dealing with online privacy concerns...and...are the new regulations good or bad news for marketers and content creators? Robert's raves include TCG buying a majority stake in Food52 and Airbnb buying Atlas Obscura. Joe's raves include Barstool Sports generating over $1 million selling vodka and his experience in New Orleans at three particular establishments that all marketers can learn from. ------ Subscribe to PNR: This Old Marketing at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify, Soundcloud, YouTube, or wherever you listen to fine podcasts. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Random Newsletter at JoePulizzi.com. Follow Joe @JoePulizzi. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at The Content Advisory. Follow Robert @Robert_Rose. ------ This episode is sponsored by CMI's Demand Generation Summit.

219: Will New Regulations Help or Hurt Your Content Creation?

Episode #218 of #ThisOldMarketing focuses on the death of advertising. Is it really a thing? Or perhaps an evolution to a new form and function? What would a future with no advertising look like? In other news, the Washington Post begins licensing its Content Management System to large brands, paving the way for Jeff Bezos's (Amazon's) dominance over yet another category. An important stat: 49% of Google searches end up in zero clicks, and Google's strategy will only end up increasing this number. Could search engine optimization die along with advertising? Raves include how Red Bull Media House started and rants include web contact forms, while Robert goes into detail on the failure of written-content projects from brands. ------ Subscribe to PNR: This Old Marketing at Apple Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify or wherever you listen to fine podcasts. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Random Newsletter at JoePulizzi.com. Follow Joe @JoePulizzi. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at The Content Advisory. Follow Robert @Robert_Rose. ------ This episode is sponsored by CMI's Demand Generation Summit.

218: Is the Death of Advertising Upon Us?

Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose, two of the most well-known experts in the content marketing space, talk about the latest content marketing trends and discuss how businesses can use content to attract and retain customers. Each podcast show features a discussion of content marketing headlines, rants from Joe and Robert on what's going on in the industry, and a "This Old Marketing" example from the past (that we can learn from). Always useful, entertaining and never more than 60 minutes. This Old Marketing is part of the Content Marketing Institute(CMI) Podcast Network.

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