While Coca-Cola begins killing zombie brands in favor of old standbys, companies like The New York Times are diversifying like crazy. Who's right? Carnage is hitting digital media during the pandemic, affecting publishers just when they started to turn the corner, while content marketing, according to ANA research, is beginning to boom. Joe raves about Prof G's podcast with Adam Alter on recombination. Robert raves on Calm's new meditation app, and comments about Google's new cookie policy. This week's sponsor: ContentTECH Summit ------ Subscribe to PNR: This Old Marketing at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify or wherever you listen to fine podcasts. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Random Newsletter at JoePulizzi.com. Follow Joe @JoePulizzi. Joe's new #thriller is now available at TheWilltoDie.com. Also, get Joe's Corona Marketing book free. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at The Content Advisory. Follow Robert @Robert_Rose.  

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241: Double Down or Diversify? That Is the Question

Facebook was under fire this week for possibly spreading hate speech and misinformation (what's new?). Some people think Zuckerberg should be out. At the same time, TikTok may possibly be forced out of the United States as concern of Chinese data tampering persists. In other news, Lululemon buys Mirror in a content/technology deal that seemed almost too cheap to pass up. And when did Substack get so big? Could it be the next bubble? Rants and raves include a #Quibi update (doesn't look good) with Project M buying The Hard Times and Queen teaches about audience development. This week's sponsor: ContentTECH Summit ------ Subscribe to PNR: This Old Marketing at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify or wherever you listen to fine podcasts. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Random Newsletter at JoePulizzi.com. Follow Joe @JoePulizzi. Joe's new #thriller is now available at TheWilltoDie.com. Also, get Joe's Corona Marketing book free. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at The Content Advisory. Follow Robert @Robert_Rose.

240: Social Media Is Out to Destroy Us

Almost all physical events are canceled for 2020. This means there will be a lot of innovation in the virtual events space. This also means a huge opportunity for a large tech brand to become the Netflix for business video content. The Girl Scouts are launching a new content brand called CircleAround. Both Joe and Robert love the idea, but the plan has some major flaws. Some publisher content studios are set up to fail, while Facebook faces a serious boycott to its services. In rants and raves, Robert's Quibi update...plus a rave about Apple's privacy policy. Joe has a commentary on how he almost gave up on his not-for-profit foundation (but didn't). This week's sponsor: ContentTECH Summit ------ Subscribe to PNR: This Old Marketing at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify or wherever you listen to fine podcasts. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Random Newsletter at JoePulizzi.com. Follow Joe @JoePulizzi. Joe's new #thriller is now available at TheWilltoDie.com. Also, get Joe's Corona Marketing book free. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at The Content Advisory. Follow Robert @Robert_Rose.

239: Who's Going to Be the Netflix of Business Content?

Continuing the acquisition movement, Adweek was purchased by Shamrock Capital Advisors. More to come? The boys will answer. Microsoft lays of 50 journalists, instead opting to use "computer robots." Robert reviews what journalists need to do now to protect their jobs. And Nic Carter from Coindesk details a fascinating take on perhaps, in the future, you'll be able to lay claim to your social media profile. Robert provides a valuable Quibi update and rants on yet another AdAge article. Joe spends his time remembering the great Don Schultz, may he rest in peace. This week's sponsor: ContentTECH Summit ------ Subscribe to PNR: This Old Marketing at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify or wherever you listen to fine podcasts. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Random Newsletter at JoePulizzi.com. Follow Joe @JoePulizzi. Joe's new #thriller is now available at TheWilltoDie.com. Also, get Joe's Corona Marketing book free. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at The Content Advisory. Follow Robert @Robert_Rose.

238: Is Your Social Media Your Property?

Media company Team Whistle buys production company/agency Tiny Horse, further showing that revenue diversification is king in media and content marketing today. Joe Rogan signs with Spotify and Joe and Robert chiming in on who is the real winner. The White House is putting the smackdown on Twitter and social media regarding Twitter's labeling of the President's tweets, while Zuckerberg keeps making the wrong decisions for Facebook. Joe raves about Prof G's podcast with Sam Harris regarding the destruction of the advertising model and rants about how TV advertisers can't keep an agreement. Robert has a Quibi update, comments about Google's news initiative with McClatchy and raves about a roofing company doing the weather. This week's sponsor: Content Marketing Awards   ------ Subscribe to PNR: This Old Marketing at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify or wherever you listen to fine podcasts. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Random Newsletter at JoePulizzi.com. Follow Joe @JoePulizzi. Joe's new #thriller is now available at TheWilltoDie.com. Also, get Joe's Corona Marketing book free. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at The Content Advisory. Follow Robert @Robert_Rose.

237: Chaos Creates a Rather Large Marketing Opportunity for Brands

The New York Times reports that big tech such as Facebook and Google should pay media companies reparations for lost revenue. Joe and Robert think differently. The media business continues to kill itself due to a short-sighted revenue strategy. In other news, the Financial Times launches a mix group for subscription but doesn't invite any product brands, while thought leadership is everything. Robert's rants and raves include a Quibi update and that new marketing really isn't new, while Joe discusses an interview with the IAB and the new Riot Games Launch. Sponsor: CMI's Demand Generation Summit May 19-20 ------ Subscribe to PNR: This Old Marketing at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify or wherever you listen to fine podcasts. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Random Newsletter at JoePulizzi.com. Follow Joe @JoePulizzi. Joe's new #thriller is now available at TheWilltoDie.com. Also, get Joe's Corona Marketing book free. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at The Content Advisory. Follow Robert @Robert_Rose.

236: The Media Business Killed Itself

What do marketers do while we wait for a turnaround? Cosmo magazine details a number of key content marketing tactics that should be used by every enterprise, while Orbit Media offers 26 marketing ideas you could use now to get your house in order. Vayner Media continues an acquisition trend and there is a sale on Facebook ads. #ThisOldMarketing raves include a Quibi update, unique partnerships, and a rant on virtual college tours. Today's sponsor: Content Marketing Awards. Deadline for entry is 5/29. ------ Subscribe to PNR: This Old Marketing at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify or wherever you listen to fine podcasts. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Random Newsletter at JoePulizzi.com. Follow Joe @JoePulizzi. Joe's new #thriller is now available at TheWilltoDie.com. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at The Content Advisory. Follow Robert @Robert_Rose.

235: Prepare for a Turnaround with these Marketing Tips

In this episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Robert and Joe discuss why marketers need to aggressively invest in marketing now and not cut back. In other news, Joe Biden and team (finally) launch an enewsletter and podcast program, while a few airlines announce the suspension of their print onboard magazines in response to the coronavirus. Then the boys spend many fruitless minutes discussing the launch of new content platform Quibi and what that means for humankind. In rants and raves, Robert raves about the opportunity in everything and Some Good News with John Krasinski, while Joe discusses the rather large opportunity in print media. Today's sponsor: Content Marketing University. Use code FRIEND200 to save $200. Offer ends 4/30. ------ Subscribe to PNR: This Old Marketing at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify, YouTube, or wherever you listen to fine podcasts. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Random Newsletter at JoePulizzi.com. Follow Joe @JoePulizzi. Joe's new #thriller is now available at TheWilltoDie.com. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at The Content Advisory. Follow Robert @Robert_Rose.

234: Why Invest in Marketing Now (Before It's Too Late)

In this episode of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert discuss how the coronavirus COVID-19 is impacting media companies, specifically local media. Frankly, can they survive? What will be the model that replaces them? In other news, what can enterprise brands learn from the marketing of YouTube sensation Jo-Jo Siwa? Media and brand publishing partnerships are all the rage, while the CMO of Anheuser-Busch goes full content marketing. In rants and raves, Joe raves about the National Cowboy & Western Heritage Museum and Robert comments on consumer trust in digital marketing. Today's sponsor: Content Marketing University. Use code FRIEND200 to save $200. Offer ends 4/30. ------ Subscribe to PNR: This Old Marketing at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify, YouTube, or wherever you listen to fine podcasts. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Random Newsletter at JoePulizzi.com. Follow Joe @JoePulizzi. Joe's new #thriller is now available at TheWilltoDie.com. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at The Content Advisory. Follow Robert @Robert_Rose.

233: Can Media Companies Survive Coronavirus?

A special episode of #ThisOldMarketing. In this episode, Joe and Robert discuss some big opportunities for marketers, especially in the acquisition space. ------ Subscribe to PNR: This Old Marketing at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify, YouTube, or wherever you listen to fine podcasts. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Random Newsletter at JoePulizzi.com. Follow Joe @JoePulizzi. Joe's new #thriller is now available at TheWilltoDie.com. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at The Content Advisory. Follow Robert @Robert_Rose.

232: What Marketers Need to Do During Lockdown [SPECIAL EPISODE]

Joe and Robert discuss a corona virus (COVID-19) week of news in marketing, trying to make sense of what's next. Corona virus coverage gives major publishers a huge lift in traffic, bringing in pay-wall and advertising questions. In other news, a strange report claimed that now is the time for Apple to buy Disney. Of course, Robert is against, while Joe is the biggest cheerleader for the deal. Facebook had all sorts of issues with its AI-powered SPAM engine, while Ford completely changes it's advertising campaigns in response to COVID-19. Finally, the boys discuss why now may be the greatest moment ever for content marketing. In rants and raves, Joe comments about how now is a truly defining moment for marketing, while Robert discusses the future and opportunity in virtual events. Today's sponsor: Content Marketing University. Use code FRIEND200 to save $200. Offer ends 4/30. ------ Subscribe to PNR: This Old Marketing at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify, YouTube, or wherever you listen to fine podcasts. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Random Newsletter at JoePulizzi.com. Follow Joe @JoePulizzi. Joe's new #thriller is now available at TheWilltoDie.com. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at The Content Advisory. Follow Robert @Robert_Rose.

231: Making Sense of a Crazy Week...plus Could Apple Buy Disney?

A special episode of #ThisOldMarketing. In this episode, Joe and Robert discuss the new reality in front of marketers and what we, as marketers, need to be focusing on today. ------ Subscribe to PNR: This Old Marketing at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify, YouTube, or wherever you listen to fine podcasts. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Random Newsletter at JoePulizzi.com. Follow Joe @JoePulizzi. Joe's new #thriller is now available at TheWilltoDie.com. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at The Content Advisory. Follow Robert @Robert_Rose.

230: Marketing at a Social Distance [SPECIAL EPISODE]

For episode #229 of #ThisOldMarketing, Joe and Robert lead off with a worthy rant on AdAge's addition of a "content marketing" awards category, which really isn't content marketing at all. Both Mailchimp and Salesforce purchase media properties, further proving that the boys' prediction from the past is coming true - corporate brands are and will continue to buy traditional media assets. In other news, former 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick launches his one publishing venture. The jury is out on whether this is actually a real thing or not. In rants and raves, Robert rants about the flawed research on the coronavirus that is affecting Corona beer, while Joe raves about Jonah Berger's "The Catalyst" and rants about Audible production. ------ Subscribe to PNR: This Old Marketing at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify, YouTube, or wherever you listen to fine podcasts. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Random Newsletter at JoePulizzi.com. Follow Joe @JoePulizzi. Joe's new #thriller is now available at TheWilltoDie.com. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at The Content Advisory. Follow Robert @Robert_Rose. ------ This episode is sponsored by ContentTECH Summit.

229: Salesforce, Mailchimp Buy Media Properties

In episode #228 of This Old Marketing, Joe and Robert kick off the show with commentary on Burger King's new "moldy burger" campaign. Facebook hires Reuters to do fact checking, and the boys argue about the real strategy behind the move. More and more "advertisers" are buying media companies and one article gives a detailed history of the missed opportunity (by both marketers and media companies). Catalogs are back again, while the Peloton "wife" commercial didn't hurt business like so many prognosticators thought. In rants and raves, Robert details why IKEA keeps winning and shares an important New York Times article on the importance of Journalism. Joe shares new research on the "State of Writing" and its impact on all marketers and communicators. ------ Subscribe to PNR: This Old Marketing at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify, Soundcloud, YouTube, or wherever you listen to fine podcasts. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Random Newsletter at JoePulizzi.com. Follow Joe @JoePulizzi. Joe's new #thriller is now available at TheWilltoDie.com. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at The Content Advisory. Follow Robert @Robert_Rose. ------ This episode is sponsored by ContentTECH Summit.

228: The Real Story Behind Facebook's Fact-Checking Plan

On episode #227 of PNR's This Old Marketing, Joe and Robert dissect the best and worst super bowl ads of 2020. In other news, the creation of less content is actually a winning strategy of successful online publishers, while Warren Buffett leaves the newspaper media industry...or does he? There were a slew of M&A deals over the past few weeks, including Barstool Sports and Spotify gobbling up "The Ringer." In rants and raves, Joe raves about Ray Dalio's Principles, and shares one of the oldest content marketing examples ever. Robert raves about John Kotter's A Sense of Urgency and discusses the future of content activism. ------ Subscribe to PNR: This Old Marketing at Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spotify, Soundcloud, YouTube, or wherever you listen to fine podcasts. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Random Newsletter at JoePulizzi.com. Follow Joe @JoePulizzi. Joe's new #thriller is now available at TheWilltoDie.com. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at The Content Advisory. Follow Robert @Robert_Rose. ------ This episode is sponsored by ContentTECH Summit.

227: Ranking the Best & Worst Super Bowl Ads of 2020

Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose, two of the most well-known experts in the content marketing space, talk about the latest content marketing trends and discuss how businesses can use content to attract and retain customers. Each podcast show features a discussion of content marketing headlines, rants from Joe and Robert on what's going on in the industry, and a "This Old Marketing" example from the past (that we can learn from). Always useful, entertaining and never more than 60 minutes. This Old Marketing is part of the Content Marketing Institute(CMI) Podcast Network.

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