Jess Robertson joins us to talk about things you can do to make your website and business more inclusive. We talk about how Jess got started in wedding photography, why she wanted to make her business more inclusive, and how she presents herself and her business online to attract clients. We also talk about beer and Michigan breweries and how establishing a good report with a local brewery can be beneficial to your business. Beer Talk: Jess - Watermelon Hard Seltzer by White Claw Dustin - Sex and Candy by 18th Street Brewery Steve - Icelandic Wee Heavy by Einstok Olgerd Q&A: Instead of referring to clients in the contract as husband and wife could we call them passionate lover #1 and passionate lover #2? Is it possible to be an exclusive, luxury wedding photographer and inclusive? Where is an elopement in Michigan if someone just points to there thumb? I accidentally wrote cow girls and space guys in an email to a throuple getting married, how do I recover? Which Detroit sports teams should I do a stylized shoot with their gear? Find more Jess online: Website, Instagram, Facebook Want more? Get bonus content like outtakes from guest episodes and more weekly photography advice at patreon.com/WPH (that's where you'll find the Steve and Dustin Save the World weekly podcast). Join the hungover community: Wedding Hangover Facebook Group Connect with us: Facebook Page, Instagram, Twitter This podcast is edited by Steven Van Elk. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/weddingphotohangover/message

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Ep. #178 - Cow Girls and Space Guy with Jess Robertson of Girl with the Tattoos

This week Steve talks to James Broadbent of Narrative and Chasewild about building tools to help streamline workflows for photographers. They talk about Narrative Publish and Narrative Select and how they reduce the time it takes to publish blogs and also cull shoots. Steve and James also chat about Narrative's response to the Covid-19 Pandemic and how Narrative helped out their clients during the past year. Also they chat about how James got started in photography (with a 50mm in Pakistan taking photos of mountains during a trip) and about his destination photography company Chasewild. Q&A: Is Narrative Apple only and if so, when will it come to Windows? I don't like the idea of paying to keep blog posts on my site, but more importantly what is your favorite color? Can someone explain why photographers waste so much time culling photos? I shoot 100 and I deliver 100. What's the problem? I shoot family photos on burst mode and need a way to speed up post processing, what should I do? Find more about Narrative online: Website, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter Narrative Publish (use coupon weddingphotographyhangover for 20% off) Narrative Select (select is still in Beta, but it's already really good) Find more James Broadbent online: Instagram, Twitter, Chasewild Website If you're looking for more info about COVID-19, be sure to head over to the CDC website. Want more? Get bonus content like outtakes from guest episodes and more weekly photography advice at patreon.com/WPH (that's where you'll find the Steve and Dustin Save the World weekly podcast). Join the hungover community: Wedding Hangover Facebook Group Connect with us: Facebook Page, Instagram, Twitter This podcast is edited by Steven Van Elk. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/weddingphotohangover/message

Ep. #177 - Streamlining Your Photography Workflow with James Broadbent of Narrative

This week Steve was joined by Brandon Wong of the Photobooth Supply Co. Brandon talked to Steve about why he transitioned from being a wedding photographer to creating a photobooth company that could help photographers and other event vendors make more money. Brandon and Steve also talk about the changes Photobooth Supply Co. made this last year to help their clients keep earning money during the pandemic, and they also talk a little bit about the future of photobooths. Q&A: Where do you get your jumpsuits for conferences? Where do you think AR fits into the future of photobooths? Do you have to encourage guests at events to take dick pics or does that just happen organically? If a skunk sprays your salsa photobooth can you clean off the stank with tomato juice? If listening to this episode finally convinced you to take the leap and buy a photobooth, you can do that here: https://photoboothsupplyco.com/weddinghangover Check out Photobooth Supply Co. online: Website, Instagram, Facebook, Twitter Headshot of Brandon Wong used as episode art shot by Angela Shae Photography. If you're looking for more info about COVID-19, be sure to head over to the CDC website. Want more? Get bonus content like outtakes from guest episodes and more weekly photography advice at patreon.com/WPH (that's where you'll find the Steve and Dustin Save the World weekly podcast). Join the hungover community: Wedding Hangover Facebook Group Connect with us: Facebook Page, Instagram, Twitter This podcast is edited by Bespoke Tone. Go to Bespoke Tone for all your photo, video, and audio editing needs. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/weddingphotohangover/message

Ep. #176 - The World's #1 Most Stank Proof Photobooth with Brandon Wong of the Photobooth Supply Co.

This week we talk with Josh Withers about his switch from editing photos on the iPad Pro to a new M1 MacBook. We also talk about some crazy theory about the right way to pose men and women in photos that's some weird toxic masculinity crap, using your Facebook group to charge vendors to post, and looking for a way to get a venue for 500 people that has a 100% refundable deposit and also is available in three months. Q&A: Has anyone been shooting in the pandemic? Has anyone been put into any interesting situations because of Covid? What considerations do you need to keep in mind for associate photographers if it's your first time using one? Links: Which way is your client's genitals pointing? Get an M1 MacBook Air like Josh Withers. Find more Josh Withers online: Website, Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, Unsplash, The Elopement Collective, The Rebel's Guide to Getting Married, The Celebrant Institute, Episode art by Kate Roberge. If you're looking for more info about COVID-19, be sure to head over to the CDC website. Want more? Get bonus content like outtakes from guest episodes and more weekly photography advice at patreon.com/WPH (that's where you'll find the Steve and Dustin Save the World weekly podcast). Join the hungover community: Wedding Hangover Facebook Group Connect with us: Facebook Page, Instagram, Twitter This podcast is edited by Bespoke Tone. Go to Bespoke Tone for all your photo, video, and audio editing needs. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/weddingphotohangover/message

Ep. #175 - Switching to the M1 Mac and Toot Toot Caboose with Josh Withers

This week we welcome Ulices Del Toro back to the podcast to talk about life after having a baby. We also talk about the Sony A1 and the Fujifilm GFX 100s a little (but not too much because neither of us have those cameras). The photographer of the viral Bernie Sanders photo was interviewed by Rolling Stone and had some thoughts to share about his photo and we also talk about Airmap suggesting that drone flights be monetized by the government. Beer Talk: Ulices - Features & Benefits by Stone Brewing Steve - Augustus Gloop's Secret Stash by Books & Brews Q&A: If you team up with another photographer to offer video, should you brand your video on your own or let your video just fall under their brand? If a wedding is rescheduled and then happens without the photographer, but the clients still want photos in their wedding attire, what do you charge them? If you don't want people giving speeches and doing vows to stare at their phones, then is gifting them notebooks or vow books a good idea? Links: Sony A1 specs on the Verge. Fujifilm GFX 100s specs on the Verge. Bernie Sander's viral image photographer's comments on the Independent. Airmap suggests monetizing drone flights on Petapixel. Find Ulices Online: DelToroPhoto.com, DelToroPhoto IG, DelToroMedia IG, Wedding Photo Podcast IG, Wedding Photo Podcast If you're looking for more info about COVID-19, be sure to head over to the CDC website. Want more? Get bonus content like outtakes from guest episodes and more weekly photography advice at patreon.com/WPH (that's where you'll find the Steve and Dustin Save the World weekly podcast). Join the hungover community: Wedding Hangover Facebook Group Connect with us: Facebook Page, Instagram, Twitter This podcast is edited by Bespoke Tone. Go to Bespoke Tone for all your photo, video, and audio editing needs. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/weddingphotohangover/message

Ep. #174 - Sony A1, Fujifilm GFX 100s, and Gamestonks Sharts with Ulices Del Toro

How has the dismal vaccine rollout affected photographers? Some photographers have been kicked off Instagram since the insurrection on January 6th, is it related (it's not)? We're demanding to see location information to find out (we're terrible people and we're actually quite sorry for all of this). Sony a7iii impressions from shooting elopements and engagements. What a weird world it is to leave Canon for Sony. That weird Via Getty story from the insurrection. A daredevil photographer gets arrested for burglary. Lots of coronavirus talk and a few political things (we're not sorry about that... it's been a weird time period and we think it's important to talk about that kind of stuff... even if we're just making jokes). Sony Airpeak updates and sneak peeks. It's sexy (just like this show). Beer Talk: Steve - Gulo Gulo India Pale Lager from Wolverine State Brewing Dustin - Nothing... Not Even Water Q&A: Any tips or advice for trying to reach a different, more high end, market? Should all hobby photographers be shot and their bodies put on display as a warning to others? (hard no) What is a fauxtographer? Links: Sony Airpeak updates. Daredevil photographer arrested. The Via Getty story. Episode art by Michael Orlando of Bloom Photos. If you're looking for more info about COVID-19, be sure to head over to the CDC website. Want more? Get bonus content like outtakes from guest episodes and more weekly photography advice at patreon.com/WPH (that's where you'll find the Steve and Dustin Save the World weekly podcast). Join the hungover community: Wedding Hangover Facebook Group Connect with us: Facebook Page, Instagram, Twitter This podcast is edited by Bespoke Tone. Go to Bespoke Tone for all your photo and audio editing needs. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/weddingphotohangover/message

Ep. #173 - Leaving Canon for Sony and Photographers Kicked Off Instagram

This week we're talking Christmas gifts and the things we missed in 2020 and the things we're looking forward to in 2021. But it's mostly not holiday related. We have updates on birds that rhyme with Sony as well as updates on more terrible things that Pass is doing. We're also talking about the longest exposure photo ever taken, a touchpad replacement for a shutter button and DJI being put on the economic blacklist. Plus, drone photos of landscapes that look rather phallic. Nature's d**k pics. Beer Talk: Steve - Exemption from Taxman Brewing Company Dustin - Yellowstone Bourbon Q&A: What do you do if a second shooter takes a bunch of photos that aren't deliverable in any way, shape or form? Should you switch from Android to iPhone so your photography business brand seems more luxurious? Is it okay to not pay a photographer for their work if they showed up late with a child? Links: Longest Exposure. Canon Patents Touchpad Shutter Button Replacement. DJI Added to the Economic Blacklist. Jessica Hunt Claims Pass Deleted Her Account. Episode art by Bryan Marchulaitis. If you're looking for more info about COVID-19, be sure to head over to the CDC website. Want more? Get bonus content like outtakes from guest episodes and more weekly photography advice at patreon.com/WPH (that's where you'll find the Steve and Dustin Save the World weekly podcast). Join the hungover community: Wedding Hangover Facebook Group Connect with us: Facebook Page, Instagram, Twitter This podcast is edited by Bespoke Tone. Go to Bespoke Tone for all your photo and audio editing needs. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/weddingphotohangover/message

Ep. #172 - Should A Luxury Photo Company Use iPhone or Android?

This episode is weird. Dustin could have sent Steve his audio. Steve could have asked for that audio when he realized it wasn't there... but then Steve's massive frustration with Dustin's weird Skype glitches wouldn't shine through in the episode and then people would just think Steve and Dustin were frustrated for other reasons than technology... So here's that sweet Skype audio everyone craves so that you all know what horrors Steve and Dustin faced. This week we talk about the AirPods Max, Dustin's new fugly Kickstarter shoes (they're worse than moonshoes somehow), and people dying during or after shoots. It's a little bit morose but we promise to handle the topic with same level of tactless crassness that we always bring to the table. We also talk about people developing film in beer. Hell yeah! Finally we talk about the Sony Pony Droney (which we hold is a better name than AirPeak). Beer Talk: Steve - Eirik Bloodaxe (the best beer in the world) by Scarlet Lane Brewing Dustin - Fat Tire by New Belgium Brewing Q&A: WTF is the point of a photographer listing their gear or camera systems in their Instagram info, etc? What do you do if a wedding client is hiring different photographers for different parts of the day? Is it okay to edit noses and dorsal humps of your subjects without talking to them first to make sure it's something they want? Links: Shoes uglier than moonshoes. Developing film in beer. Sony Pony Droney. Raymond Hatfield’s podcast Beginner Photography Podcast. Episode art by Kartheek Hegde of Kartheek Photo. If you're looking for more info about COVID-19, be sure to head over to the CDC website. Want more? Get bonus content like outtakes from guest episodes and more weekly photography advice at patreon.com/WPH (that's where you'll find the Steve and Dustin Save the World weekly podcast). Join the hungover community: Wedding Hangover Facebook Group Connect with us: Facebook Page, Instagram, Twitter This podcast is edited by Bespoke Tone. Go to Bespoke Tone for all your photo and audio editing needs. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/weddingphotohangover/message

Ep. #171 - Sony Pony Droney Bologna

This week we're going hard in the paint on Q&A. We talk about treatment and pay of second shooters, whether it's okay to call other photographers out when they lie, if you should tell other photographers not to buy DSLRs, whether or not you should have in-laws in family photos, and if you should plan elopements for people before they officially hire you. In the post show we talk about 30 Rock, Neil Gaiman's American Gods, Brandon Sanderson's Mistborn series and the Stormlight Archive series, and also  the Harley Quinn series. It's a book heavy post show... well, audiobooks (our biggest competitor... why are we doing this?). Episode art by Stephanie Sonju of Sonju Photography. Sign up with HoneyBook: http://share.honeybook.com/weddinghangover Use code: WeddingHangover If you're looking for more info about COVID-19, be sure to head over to the CDC website. Want more? Get bonus content like outtakes from guest episodes and more weekly photography advice at patreon.com/WPH (that's where you'll find the Steve and Dustin Save the World weekly podcast). Join the hungover community: Wedding Hangover Facebook Group Connect with us: Facebook Page, Instagram, Twitter This podcast is edited by Bespoke Tone. Go to Bespoke Tone for all your photo and audio editing needs. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/weddingphotohangover/message

Ep. #170 - Do You Have to Pay Second Shooters if They're Terrible?

This is our first episode back after our fraught pre-election episode. It's been a confusing anxiety filled month as our current president refuses to acknowledge that he lost the election. He lost bigly. But we're finally back with an episode full of confusing jokes and poorly done accents. We're talking about Cole Haans and Hush Puppies in followup (trademark John Siracusa) then it's on to talking about RSI issues. Steve's been having a lot. While looking for a new office chair, Steve found some humorous questions and answers on Amazon's site (Dustin doesn't find them amusing at all). We also talk about squishy things to pillow the wrist while using a keyboard and mouse and standing desk converters. Then we talk about bad SEO advice and Parler (and you thought we were done with the political talk in the opener... somebody please end it). Also, Dustin talks about his Santa sessions and Steve mentions his frustrations with Pixifi (which isn't as good as hornybook which is a software that will get you there, according to Dustin). We also spend a long time talking about the M1 chips and the new iPhone's camera (primarily as a result of Josh Wither's fantastic blog post). Beer Talk: Dustin - H 2 O (it's not a beer, he's drinking water because he's sick) Steve - Eirik Bloodaxe by Scarlet Lane Brewing (it is a beer, he's drinking beer despite being sick because he's an idiot) Our recording went super long, so we're breaking Q&A up into a separate episode which will air next week. Links: The Generic Wrist Rest for keyboard and mouse. The Ergonomic Chair by Serta for sitting. The Standing Desk Converter by VIVO for turning your normal desk into a standing one! The iPhone 12 Pro Max that everyone isn't really talking that much about. New Apple M1 Chip in MacBook Pro Protective Case. New Apple M1 Chip in MacBook Air Protective Case. Nutcracker for MacBook Protective Cases so you can get that sweet M1 Chip out (Christmas Edition). Episode Art by Rebecca Elliot of Sunnybrook Photo. HoneyBook: http://share.honeybook.com/weddinghangover Use Code: WeddingHangover If you're looking for more info about COVID-19, be sure to head over to the CDC website. Want more? Get bonus content like outtakes from guest episodes and more weekly photography advice at patreon.com/WPH (that's where you'll find the Steve and Dustin Save the World weekly podcast). Join the hungover community: Wedding Hangover Facebook Group Connect with us: Facebook Page, Instagram, Twitter This podcast is edited by Bespoke Tone. Go to Bespoke Tone for all your photo and audio editing needs. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/weddingphotohangover/message

Ep. #169 - Moonshoes, Mullet Shoes, M1 Chips, and iPhone Camera Comparisons

This week we discuss the best cameras for catching pumpkin smashers red-handed, the best full spectrum cameras, how do you get photos of kids on Halloween if they have to wear masks, what doe sit mean if a cloud of smoke passes by you during a real estate video shoot when you're all alone, and demon bokeh photobombs. Links to everything you need to capture photos of ghosts, little red-handed sh*ts, and demon daughters: Sony a9ii Sony 400mm f/2.8 Sony 70-200mm f/2.8 Profoto B10 Episode artwork by Jenn Van Elk from Van Elk & Co. for the #sinfluencers series for Scarlet Lane Brewing Company. If you're looking for more info about COVID-19, be sure to head over to the CDC website. Want more? Get bonus content like outtakes from guest episodes and more weekly photography advice at patreon.com/WPH (that's where you'll find the Steve and Dustin Save the World weekly podcast). Join the hungover community: Wedding Hangover Facebook Group Connect with us: Facebook Page, Instagram, Twitter This podcast is edited by Bespoke Tone. Go to Bespoke Tone for all your photo and audio editing needs. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/weddingphotohangover/message

Ep. #168 - Halloween Spooktacular 2020 Get Out and Vote

How bout that title? Think that'll bypass the title censorship laws (do those exist?)? This week we're talking about Steve's RSI issues, the new Sony a7c, and Steve's fear that he's becoming a videographer again. Also, consensual slap-@$$ at weddings. Beer Talk: Dustin - Sex and Candy from 18th Street Brewery Steve - Logue from Half Acre Beer Company Q&A: Prints and albums or all digital delivery? Should you switch your Lightroom to low res previews for the sick speed gains? What's the best camera for 0-120$ for a bride on a budget that doesn't want an expensive wedding photographer? Best wedding day hacks? Steve Replicants on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theactualrealstevenvanelk/ https://www.instagram.com/thereal_stevenvanelk/ https://www.instagram.com/official_steven_van_elk/ Episode art by Rob Betz of Heather and Rob Wedding Photography. If you're looking for more info about COVID-19, be sure to head over to the CDC website. Want more? Get bonus content like outtakes from guest episodes and more weekly photography advice at patreon.com/WPH (that's where you'll find the Steve and Dustin Save the World weekly podcast). Join the hungover community: Wedding Hangover Facebook Group Connect with us: Facebook Page, Instagram, Twitter This podcast is edited by Bespoke Tone. Go to Bespoke Tone for all your photo and audio editing needs. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/weddingphotohangover/message

Ep. #167 - Consensual Slap-@$$

This week Steve tells a story about using manual focus with live view when it was too dark for his autofocus to work. It was hell. Dustin talks about video lights and we wonder if he's even a photographer anymore. We talk about some Canon, Sony, and Fuji Fast Glass stuff. Also, "They Took Our Jobs!" That's right! We have an in depth and intelligent discussion of the new Skylum software coming out, Luminar AI, that isn't just Steve trying to get Dustin to repeat a line from South Park while Dustin clearly has no idea what Steve is talking about. It's very intelligent. Also, Steve explains Dorian Grey to Dustin, kind of... Beer Talk: Dustin - Some Canned Old-Fashioned thing that doesn't even have actual whisky in it Steve - Elijah Craig and coke and then also a Munsterfest from Three Floyds because it's been a hard few weeks so stop judging me. Q&A: If a photographer hires you to second shoot but never tells you where to be to second shoot, should you just leave and drive to the area to be there on time in case they do give you an address at the last minute? If a former groom gets married a second time wearing the same clothes as when he got married a few years ago while you were shooting his wedding... do you comment and mention that it's the same clothes? Dustin talks about Tenet. Steve talks about I'm Thinking of Ending Things. They're both disappointed. Also, Dustin doesn't understand how acting works. Episode art by Merrisa Court of Merrisa Caroline Photography. If you're looking for more info about COVID-19, be sure to head over to the CDC website. Want more? Get bonus content like outtakes from guest episodes and more weekly photography advice at patreon.com/WPH (that's where you'll find the Steve and Dustin Save the World weekly podcast). Join the hungover community: Wedding Hangover Facebook Group Connect with us: Facebook Page, Instagram, Twitter This podcast is edited by Bespoke Tone. Go to Bespoke Tone for all your photo, video, and audio editing needs. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/weddingphotohangover/message

Ep. #166 - Using Manual Focus When It's Too Dark for Auto

What is an associate photographer? Is it okay to put out random requests for an associate photographer on Facebook? What should you do to train an associate photographer? We talk about associate photographers for quite some time... and also about new scams and hoaxes on the internet. Hey, here's a crazy idea. Also, don't vote for Trump. He's literally the reason why weddings can't happen right now and why you can't work. Sorry to get political, but the community of wedding photographers is hurting because of the pandemic and as our nation's leader he's basically done nothing to help. Beer Talk: Dustin - Nap in the Hammock from Metazoa Brewing Co. Steve - Rubicon from 18th Street Brewery Q&A: What ISO should your Photoshop brushes be set at for rainbows? Does anyone know of gloves that can be used with a mouse? Is it malicious if a client cancels their wedding and you cut them a check for the amount of money they paid you and then they issue a chargeback through their credit card company even after receiving the check and then they ghost you? Links: Harsh Shadow AI. AirBNB cancels parties. Photographer invades privacy by taking photos of texts. Josh Wither’s post in the facebook group about rainbows in photos and photoshop. Episode art from Dustin McKibben of Dustin & Corynn. If you're looking for more info about COVID-19, be sure to head over to the CDC website. Want more? Get bonus content like outtakes from guest episodes and more weekly photography advice at patreon.com/WPH (that's where you'll find the Steve and Dustin Save the World weekly podcast). Join the hungover community: Wedding Hangover Facebook Group Connect with us: Facebook Page, Instagram, Twitter This podcast is edited by Bespoke Tone. Go to Bespoke Tone for all your photo, video, and audio editing needs. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/weddingphotohangover/message

Ep. #165 - What is an Associate Photographer?

This week we're talking about the possibility of your photos being used as evidence in a court of law. That's right, if you take photos of people not social distancing or not wearing masks during the coronavirus pandemic, there's a possibility you could be served a warrant and forced to turn over your photos. Which we're all for. We're also talking about how Nikon should leave the camera industry, Kodak's insider trading scandal, Instagram spam, and photographers losing clients because they support Black Lives Matter. We also take a trip to the drone zone and Dustin shares a story of a recent crash and we talk about the impact of drones on wildlife. Beer Talk: Dustin - Blood Orange Gold Standard from Taxman Brewing Company Steven - Alpha King from Three Floyds Brewing Co. Q&A: Is anyone purchasing education products/services during the COVID-19 pandemic? Do you change prices in the name of coronavirus? How much do you hate how casual rescheduling weddings has become due to the pandemic? What do you do if you delete a client's gallery as your contract stated you would, and then can't find their photos on your hard drive when they tell you they forgot to download their photos before the gallery expired? What do you say if your friend takes the smooth filter a bit too far when editing photos of you? What do you do if another photographer offers to edit your client's photos because they think you did a poor job on the edit? Links: Jamie Schneider's video about wedding photographers selling workshops. Droning ethics. There are more links, but they wouldn't fit here. Check out the website for the rest. Episode art from the elopement Steve mentioned shooting in the episode, over at VanElk.co If you're looking for more info about COVID-19, be sure to head over to the CDC website. Want more? Get bonus content like outtakes from guest episodes and more weekly photography advice at patreon.com/WPH (that's where you'll find the Steve and Dustin Save the World weekly podcast). Join the hungover community: Wedding Hangover Facebook Group Connect with us: Facebook Page, Instagram, Twitter This podcast is edited by Bespoke Tone. Go to Bespoke Tone for all your photo, video, and audio editing needs. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/weddingphotohangover/message

Ep. #164 - Pandemic Wedding Photos Being Used as Evidence

The finest in phototainment! We're an irreverent look at photography. This podcast, like aspirin, will help you recover from your wedding hangover. We aren't just trying to make the best photography podcast, we're trying to develop the best community for photographers. Why? Because we all need a place to laugh and destress. Come join us!