05 - Black Summer by Warren Ellis and Star Wars: The Last Jedi

05 - Black Summer by Warren Ellis and Star Wars: The Last Je...

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We’re through our first month!! In today’s episode we discuss Warren Ellis’s ‘Black Summer’ and really get into The Last Jedi; was it really as bad or as good as everyone says?. 00:00 - Awkward intro, tongue twisters and a bit of a chat 03:54 - The beauty of words 05:05 - What have we been up to: Dee tells us about Black Summer by Warren Ellis 10:00 - Why it hasn't aged well 12:15 - Let's try to get to the end of the book 16:00 - What's Tom been up to? (Lost in Space chat) 19:27 - Updating dated characters & tropes: why all the hate? 22:04 - "Speaking as a father..." 23:47 - Is it worth continuing? 24:05 - This was recorded the week of Star Wars the Last Jedi's home release - Is it better the second time around? 27:14 - DIGRESSION: Why Tom likes Attack of the Clones more than most people do 27:54 - Phillip Marlow but as Obi-Wan Kenobi 29:25 - Star Wars is not just about the Light Side and the Dark Side and speculations 30:54 - Parental responsibility interruption - Child or dog? 31:14 - Mystery boxes, expectations and fan theory 32:00 - Regardless of expectations it's a bloody well made movie! 32:30 - Why Finn and Rose's Vegas Adventure was kind of needed but also why it could have been better 37:09 - Romantic subplot algebra and probability 40:00 - What about Poe Dameron? 46:25 - Whose life is Poe Dameron really risking? 48:42 - Back to Finn and Rose's adventure and the nuance it brings to the Star Wars universe 50:50 - Talking about Rey, that Mary Sue! 54:30 - Too much emphasis on bloodlines - the Anakin Skywalker paradox 1:01:30 - Redemption Arcs: Comparing Kylo Ren to Prince Zuko (for some reason) 1:03:05 - Silly speculations for the next phase 1:03:29 - What all this means for the expanded "Star Wars Legends" canon 1:05:51 - Tom's philosophical gripe with Star Wars and Luke's mistakes are so important 1:09:08 - The poetry of Luke's force projection 1:11:51 - How would WE handle Carrie Fisher's death in the next film? 1:14:40 - Let's wrap this up: what did we think? 1:15:08 - What's Happening in Liverpool News this week? Remember; this was recorded Saturday 14th April 1:19:35 - Dee's homework assignment: I Hate Fairyland by Skottie Young 1:21:52 - Outro and Call to Action!! Do your usual Amazon shop while helping us at no extra cost to yourself! Support us on Patreon and be our new best friend! Tom's SECRET ORIGIN OF THE PORGS video! Find us on twitter: Tom or Dee Find us on YouTube: The French-Patels or Tom's Channel Join us for Couple's Consoling Game Streams and Creative Stream on Twitch
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We’re through our first month!! In today’s episode we discuss Warren Ellis’s ‘Black Summer’ and really get into The Last Jedi; was it really as bad or as good as everyone says?. 00:00 - Awkward intro, tongue twisters and a bit of a chat 03:54 - The beauty of words 05:05 - What have we been up to: Dee tells us about Black Summer by Warren Ellis 10:00 - Why it hasn't aged well 12:15 - Let's try to get to the end of the book 16:00 - What's Tom been up to? (Lost in Space chat) 19:27 - Updating dated characters & tropes: why all the hate? 22:04 - "Speaking as a father..." 23:47 - Is it worth continuing? 24:05 - This was recorded the week of Star Wars the Last Jedi's home release - Is it better the second time around? 27:14 - DIGRESSION: Why Tom likes Attack of the Clones more than most people do 27:54 - Phillip Marlow but as Obi-Wan Kenobi 29:25 - Star Wars is not just about the Light Side and the Dark Side and speculations 30:54 - Parental responsibility interruption - Child or dog? 31:14 - Mystery boxes, expectations and fan theory 32:00 - Regardless of expectations it's a bloody well made movie! 32:30 - Why Finn and Rose's Vegas Adventure was kind of needed but also why it could have been better 37:09 - Romantic subplot algebra and probability 40:00 - What about Poe Dameron? 46:25 - Whose life is Poe Dameron really risking? 48:42 - Back to Finn and Rose's adventure and the nuance it brings to the Star Wars universe 50:50 - Talking about Rey, that Mary Sue! 54:30 - Too much emphasis on bloodlines - the Anakin Skywalker paradox 1:01:30 - Redemption Arcs: Comparing Kylo Ren to Prince Zuko (for some reason) 1:03:05 - Silly speculations for the next phase 1:03:29 - What all this means for the expanded "Star Wars Legends" canon 1:05:51 - Tom's philosophical gripe with Star Wars and Luke's mistakes are so important 1:09:08 - The poetry of Luke's force projection 1:11:51 - How would WE handle Carrie Fisher's death in the next film? 1:14:40 - Let's wrap this up: what did we think? 1:15:08 - What's Happening in Liverpool News this week? Remember; this was recorded Saturday 14th April 1:19:35 - Dee's homework assignment: I Hate Fairyland by Skottie Young 1:21:52 - Outro and Call to Action!! Do your usual Amazon shop while helping us at no extra cost to yourself! Support us on Patreon and be our new best friend! Tom's SECRET ORIGIN OF THE PORGS video! Find us on twitter: Tom or Dee Find us on YouTube: The French-Patels or Tom's Channel Join us for Couple's Consoling Game Streams and Creative Stream on Twitch
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