2: Ep 2: Direct from the Middle with Thomas Kyriakoudis from Permira Debt Managers

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Thomas Kyriakoudis realised he needed to switch from his engineering role when he got tired of running experiments where he was compressing mud in a fridge. Fast forward to now and he is Chief Investment Officer at Permira Debt Managers. Debtwire Europe’s Joelle Jefferis spoke to Thomas about his move into direct lending, via venture capital and a period at Morgan Stanley. Touching on his favourite deal he has ever done and the frustrations of those deals that got away, Thomas talks about his experience of the European mid market so far and where he sees it heading. He also answers questions posed to him by Graeme Delaney-Smith from the previous podcast episode (https://www.debtwire.com/intelligence/view/prime-2706284) on where he sees the boundaries for European direct lending.