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This week, I speak with Sarai Johnson, a speaker, coach, author and founder of Lean Nonprofit. When I first encountered Sarai, it was through a blog post she’d written about how nonprofits and foundations often unwittingly use management and funding practices that perpetuate the very culture of poverty and oppression they are fighting against. Sounds like serious stuff, but what I so appreciate about Sarai is her ability to tell it like it is with humor and empathy. Empathy that comes from the fact that she’s been there too. We talked a lot about about how nonprofit work can feel like a grind. And we also talked some things we can all do to do better. I distill the top 3 lessons for social impact leadership from every interview I do in an email I send to my Lessons from the Lab subscribers. For instance, the week after this episode comes out, I’ll be sharing an email based on my conversation with Sarai that delves more deeply into the topic of overwork in the nonprofit space. I’ll be unpacking what mindsets fuel it, and how we can all take steps to bring ourselves, and each other, into more balance. Subscribe here: https://www.dialoguelab.org/lessons Grab a free copy of Talking Politics on Facebook: A guide to having social change conversations that are liberating, make an impact, and won't drive you crazy. Get it here: https://www.dialoguelab.org/talking-politics/