In this episode, Roger and Paul discuss Paul's company Conservative Move, a Texas-based real estate company that helps conservatives move out of blue states and into red ones. They discuss why conservatives want to move, where they are moving to and which political issues are animating his clients.  They also discuss Paul's past teenage drug abuse, his work in law enforcement & in the Clinton administration, and more.

Clusterf*cked

Episode 3 - Paul Chabot, President and CEO of Conservative Move

Liberals are too clustered in major cities, mainly in blue states. This is why Hillary Clinton can get 3 million more votes and still lose the election. Progressives and liberals are not spread out enough across the country in large enough numbers to win more elections. What can liberals and progressives do to turn more of the map blue? The short answer is…MOVE! In this podcast, we talk to people in places that aren’t blue. Sometimes it’s liberals who are on the ground in deep red territory. Other times, it’s people who don’t agree with liberals. But always with the goal of answering these questions: What will bring more liberal voters to red states? How can liberals persuade voters who are already there? The Clusterf*cked Podcast is an exploration of a new liberal movement…that must be literal!

About

Clusterf*cked