Miscellaneous
The Atlantic's Edward-Isaac Dovere joins the pod to discuss his new book, "Battle for the Soul," a newsy, inside account of how the Democrats went from 2016 defeat to 2020 victory. He tells Jean and Robert about Kamala Harris's favorite epithet, Bernie Sanders' travel tastes, why Obama is aloof to political reporters, and, more seriously, they discuss what President Biden is like in private, what Harris's political future may hold and what the GOP can learn from the Democrats' battle. Warning: This episode contains strong language.