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Former White House Press Secretary Stephanie Grisham was part of the Trump administration from the beginning and, in a conversation with Tamara Keith, offers a clear picture into what she used to actively obscure: the chaos, pettiness, and mismanagement that characterized his four years in power. Her book is I'll Take Your Questions Now.

This episode: White House correspondent Tamara Keith and White House correspondent Ayesha Rascoe.

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